Is the hoe the new housewife?

August 14, 2008 · Print This Article

Is the hoe the new housewife? Yes, and No, and No, and Yes. lol. It depends on what pair of eyes you’re looking at this question through. Asking this question brings about many more questions, which create too many variables to come up with a definite answer. But what we can do is discuss the matter and see if there is some medium we can reach.

Some women, when asked this question, replied with a question in return. And that question was “Is the hoe the husband?” or rather “Has the husband always been the hoe?” And in keeping with “no double standards” i guess both angles must be presented. BUT, i wont, lol….

We’ve all heard the term “You cant turn a hoe into a housewife,” right? So is that still true? Mr. LouAlcindor aka CB says that “Hoes have turned into the new housewife because we got a new hoe today, they have disguised themselves and have hidden their sides.” Me, personally, i believe that its 50/50. 50% disguise themselves, while the rest are quite open about their hoedom. Some guys will overlook it, others will try and transform and reform the hoe, which is what i believe cant be done. You either deal or don’t deal, you never try and re-deal. THEflyGIRL gave her opinion on the matter and said “I think a hoe is a hoe regardless of her history. And now-a days a hoe will tell they’re a hoe. It’s the Samantha effect. If a man is looking to be kept, then he obviously wants more, some sort of commitment and perhaps a hoe ain’t for him.ODARA112 summed up the matter by adding “@TCJFResh hoe’s provide temporary solutions…” Maybe, Maybe not.

When we bring “hoe” into the discussion it makes the topic more of sexual topic. Which leads me to make the point that sex, as important as it may be in a relationship should never be the foundation of such relationship, unless, the relationship is purely sexual, otherwise you are building a relationship on feelings of lust rather than love. T. Hobbs wrote a blog on this very subject, women who think their “Good Good” is gonna keep a man. It Wont! To understand the dynamics of why, check her blog out How to be a good, good woman in 2008: Lessons from Ashanti and Souljah Boy, with input from Destiny’s Child.

Lets assume that a hoe is experienced. (Where would we ever get that assumption from? lol) Which brings us to the meat of the discussion. Men used to want a virgin (i never could see myself with one). Clean, untouched, pure. But then she aint goin know no kind of tricks. What you gain in ego, you lose in technique. lol. The bragging rights you get, knowing your wife has only been with you, come with the sacrifice of experience. When asked, Ms. Karrine Steffans twittered some great insight on the matter “KarrineSteffans @TCJFResh There’s nothing worse than being stuck with a woman who won’t let her husband do whatever with her.& I do mean WHATEVER!” She also said “& most men would love their wife 2 be a hoe. Problem is, a woman gets that way by experience. He’s gotta be strong enuff 4 that.

I can admit, i have had issues with exactly what Ms. Steffans is talking about. When a relationship is purely sexual, or mostly sexual, a woman’s past means little to nothing to me, experience means EVERYTHING, and i do mean EVERYTHING. But, when, relationship sets in, all those kinky things, that she probably learned from being somebody’s “hoe,” only made me wonder about a past that i should care less about. Or should i? Again, here comes the other questions. Should a woman’s past (or man for that matter) matter? How many sex partners? Where you looking for love in all the wrong places? Or just an outright hoe? What were your motives for hoeing? Does someones past determine their future? Does it affect their future with you? There’s a good chance that even if it does matter to you, and you decide to ask, the number she gives you probably wont be as accurate as you would like it to be. There are a few documented reasons as to why she doesnt count some encounters. Xilla shared that one here “She Probably Doesn’t Count You.”

Me and my boys, have since come to the conclusion that everyone (male or female) has been someone’s hoe at some point, unless they are either virgins or just prudes. And at this point in my life i am fine with that…. As long as the love is real of course. Lets just say, that was practice and now its game time. lol.




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23 Responses to “Is the hoe the new housewife?”

  1. OdotJdot on August 14th, 2008 11:34 am

    LOL limited field experience gets you hella bench time.

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  2. F-R-E-S-H on August 14th, 2008 11:36 am

    hahahaha when u say it like that, it so very true.

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  3. theflygirl on August 14th, 2008 1:57 pm

    Hmmm, interesting. Me likey! But I do think before anybody (man or woman) decides which one they need, they must first know who THEY are.

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  4. Sherine on August 14th, 2008 2:08 pm

    This question has always been funny to me.

    Ive been known to say…a hoe can only be a hoe if she tells everyone her business. I personally DO NOT believe a woman would really refer to herself as a hoe…and the fact is…if you were to say to most women..”you slept with these many men..so you are a hoe…” Im more than willing to bet that she will flip it back to how many women a man has to sleep with for him to be considered a hoe.

    The reality of it all..is ONE partner is too much for the next man. It doesnt matter how many men a woman has been with..men just dont like to idea of knowing that their woman was with other men whether it was 1 or 100.
    Thats why when/if a man asks me my #..I never tell. Firstly, it isnt his business. Secondly, the past is the past. What I did before you…shouldnt have anything to do with what Im going to do with you or after you..
    Not only that, but men…How are you going to expect your lady to be good in bed and not ever have really done anything?

    So to answer. No I dont think the hoe is now the new housewife. Men if you are so worried about your lady being a hoe in the past…I suggest you find yourself a virgin… but get ready to do some teaching…

    Like for example, me…How am I gonna expect a man to be good at sex…but think that he has never been with other chicks??
    lol That crazy talk.

    I just think people should stop being so concerned with their mates past…If they are your mate now…and they make you happy…and they are 100% healthy.. Enjoy what it is, for what it is…

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  5. Mirth Nadir on August 14th, 2008 2:13 pm

    Hmmm … good point. I read your blog and think about the movie “Chasing Amy” … main character was tripping b/c the girl he was with was wayyyyyyy more experienced than him (and supposedly a lesbian too) and he wanted to change her and be her figurative “first” … I won’t give away the ending, but great movie IMO that was real in many, many aspects …

    To answer your question … I would say a good mix is the best case scenario … not a full time hoe but not a total virgin/prude either … like the #4 scoring option on a basketball team. although you could teach them if they are on the bench … as long as they are open to learning!

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  6. darienpaul on August 14th, 2008 2:22 pm

    i believe she is the new housewife. As much as men say i got a good girl and all this crap they fail to realize their woman had a life before she met him. weather she is a closet hoe or a out in the open hoe it all depends on how well the man deals with it and how strong he is. Men fail to realize some of them are hoes also. A “playa”…is still a hoe. A man has met at least one hoe he has wanted to reform and make wifey. This also goes for women also.

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  7. Ms. Kris on August 14th, 2008 4:04 pm

    Wow Fresh, like that. LOL! You have some very interesting points and, with the state of certain couple drama/love triangles making the rounds as of late, it would certainly seem to be the case. But I agree that some men need to fall back a little because some of them do get a little unreasonable over past relationships. I had a boyfriend get crazy on me because of one (1) ex-boyfriend (the one before him) just because he worried that the man still loved me ….SMH

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  8. CB on August 15th, 2008 7:43 am

    It so many variables in this situation. It all depends on the individual. A woman does not necessarily have to be a hoe to be good in the bedroom, some women are naturals. I say this because they know what they want and they know how they want to receive so they fulfill that with the right person and it all works out. If a woman sucks in bed sometimes its not about being hoe its just that she sucks. I know that there are some hoes in the world who suck and their experience means nothing. But getting back to the hoe being the new housewife I can say that its half and half. Those who are the new housewives have become that because they cleaned up their reputations slightly which cleaned them up enuff to get married and at the same time please their husbands. On the other end of the spectrum bruthas aint tryin to wife no hoe. They use them just what they good for some p**** and some good head. And after they get this they move along and go chill with their woman of substance and more worth. Thats why you have some women who when they was in they 20’s was fuckin every dude they met and then continued it in their 30’s and now they 40 still in the club and going to the same places they did when they were 20 and now they getting it and being hoes with men 20 years older than them. Yeah yall these hoes is time travellin! hahahahaha. To some it all up I personally i dont wont know hoe as a wife I am sorry but at the same time I cant control who I fall for at the end of the day if a man dont want a hoe then he should choose a woman who is not one but if he does then he will have to except whatever his wife done did in the past. for instance if he marries a girl and they walk in a restartaunt and every man stands up and gives her a standing ovation (even the cook comes from the kitchen and applauds) then hey he is going to have to swallow his pride just like she swallowed those men. hahahahah. sorry! im just sayin. but nah im just teasing well maybe im not. out!

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  9. F-R-E-S-H on August 15th, 2008 8:01 am

    “Yeah yall these hoes is time travellin! hahahahaha.” you my friend have N.S.

    N.S. (also called “No Sense” or “N!gg@ syndrome”) – is a condition that depletes the sense of the person affected.

    And you my friend have no sense… no sense what-so-ever!

    LMAO hahahahahaha….

    time traveling hoes…. ::LMAO::

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  10. CB on August 15th, 2008 8:10 am

    HAHAHAHAHA WHAT? I AM JUST TRYIN TO INFORM THE BROTHAS OF THESE HOES TRAVELLIN INTO DIFFERENT DECADES AND WHAT HAVE YOU.

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  11. F-R-E-S-H on August 15th, 2008 8:13 am

    hahahaha that reminds me of Eartha Kitt in Boomerang…. ewwwww i just threw up in my mouth….

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  12. Wave Chappelle on August 15th, 2008 9:08 am

    Hoe is the new hoe…

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  13. ladycarter4040 on August 15th, 2008 9:23 am

    Well…..this is a very interesting topic. With the way that things are going now (as far as relationships go) and the type of women that men are chosing now, I would definately say YES!!!! The freak from across the street is now trying to fill June Clever’s shoes!!! and it does make u wanna ask WTF????????!!!!!! but then you also have to look at it from the stand point of the man. what kind of man would really wanna bring home a hoe to his mama? what does that say about him? to me, it says he really doesn’t want much. and granted, you gotta start somewhere (in regards to sex), but hitting everything that moves, whether male or female, just ain’t the business. anyone with any kind of sense knows that their significant other has indeed been with other people (don’t think for a second she learned that “trick” from outta nowhere!). but what it comes down to is, a.) can you handle that and b.) can you handle the number. Don’t ask questions you REALLY don’t wanna know the answr to! But if loose women/men are your thing, then more power to you!!! :smile:

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  14. S Dot Parker on August 15th, 2008 9:35 am

    the truth is everybody’s woman is a hoe to someone else. your woman could’ve been with one other man and if him in his boys see her out with you after it is over between you two, then its “man i use to have that hoe doing everything, she’s a rat”…wtf. when you are in an intimate relationship with someone, the idea is to please one another anyway you can. what WILL make your girl a hoe is if yall in a relationship and she’s pleasing everyone every way she can. Since we have such high expectations for wifey, the only way you can prevent someone from calling your girl a hoe is too go get a girl from Africa and bring her to the furthest city in Cali, but i bet it will be still some dude in a hut (just a joke) in Africa talking about how he had that hoe on the back of a zebra, doing some off the wall shit. Basically you won’t be able to win with who you pick and there ain’t enough virgins for everyone so as long as you can deal with her past, F@#* what everyone else is saying…

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  15. Marleaux on August 15th, 2008 9:55 am

    CB brought up a good point (though I kept snickering at him saying “sucks in bed over and over” lmao). Being sexually educated and skilled doesn’t make you hoe. All you need is the right book or movie for a few ideas on how to please a man to the 10th power.

    And in regards to karrine’s comments, being a prude doesn’t make you a nonhoe. You can be multi-sleeping with dudes on a daily and keeping it in missionary with your legs down…

    But I agree that everybody has hoe tendencies, myself included. I remember when I first started dating; I would make men wait 3 months before having sex. Yeah, that got real old fast. I mean, after one relationship that included regular scheduled sex fizzled, I would have to first find another to date, then make him wait 3 months. Yeah right. That got old fast.

    You, just gotta keep your ish in order, and don’t be sleeping with dudes back to back to back. That’s how you end up on Maury…

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  16. S Dot Parker on August 15th, 2008 2:02 pm

    yeah a book can help but we know there is no better teacher than experience…lol. if my girl got in the bed with a book…my penis would get soft…lol(dave Chapelle). you dont have to be a pro but working hips cant be taught with a book, you gotta do da damn thang…lol

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  17. Sherine on August 16th, 2008 4:38 am

    the truth is everybody’s man is a hoe to someone else.

    ^^ I agree with this to an extent and with agreeing with this I dont necessarily agree popping off with her ex and his boys. I hear what CB is saying that a hoe may not always be good in bed. But the fact is if you have a girl and she seems like a “good girl”..and she throws it down in the bedroom. Chances are she did the same things to her man BEFORE you.. So with that thinking the hoe BEEN the housewife. You know that “trash is someone elses treasure” saying…well it applies here.

    I just think now alot of women have that “if he can do it, I can do it too or EVEN BETTER” attitude and aren’t afraid to say it.

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  18. The78msJ on August 17th, 2008 3:18 pm

    Wow where was I when this article was finished, anyhow apparently everyone is real sensitive on this subject some more than others. Hoe is the new housewife and it goes deeper than just the many partners one has slept with. Let’s keep it all the way real with our “liberal” anything goes type society everyone is doing some freakishly outlandish type sexual stuff.

    Now Just because one my choose to go against the grain and say you know what I don’t think sex should be used as the new cardio workout, thus doing it with whomever, but rather saving it for someone who is worthy of getting between the sheets and sharing fluids with. Does not make that person a prude, why must one be a prude because they choose to restore value in something that has been cheapened and overused. Why is it prudish to try and know indept the person you are going to be sharing fluids/ possibly DNA or if you haven’t done the research diseases with?

    Experience can teach many lessons but no one touched on the emotional nor mental state of those lessons you kept it purely physical. My biggest question is always what made you think that hopping on a 100 dicks was okay? Or what made you think that sticking your dick in a 100 women was okay? There are conversations that are not being had, realistically you can learn and pick up techniques, get suggestions try new things etc, but hoish tendencies they don’t go away they are part of the psyche and just because you wived that hoe doesn’t mean she is really a wife. You can dress anything up to make it pretty even shit but it still stinks and is hella nasty!

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  19. ODARA on August 17th, 2008 7:57 pm

    GREAT Post Fresh!!!!

    This is deep…here’s my view on this…

    Ok to answer your question about if a woman/man’s past should matter…I say NO. as long as your partners past doesn’t jeopardize your well being then it should NOT matter. I look @ it like this…I’m with a guy for who he IS not who he WAS…and knowing things like how many sexual partners he’s had prior to me just opens doors for concern & adds stress on the relationship.

    I know initially I stated that hoe’s provide temporary solutions but I guess it depends on one’s definition of a HOE…

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  20. michelle on September 8th, 2008 4:58 am

    “Hoes have turned into the new housewife because we got a new hoe today, they have disguised themselves and have hidden their sides.” i think that is incorrect, history like it as always is REPEATED so maybe it isn’t that there’s a new hoe maybe its like the old saying “one mans trash is another mans treasure” so it might just mean that the wife is or used to be someone else’s hoe, if you feel what I’m saying? haha personally i am a witness of that my fiancé and i are close and everything so we tell each other of our past and if you can personally accept the person CAN turn a hoe into a housewife. and just cause they were once a hoe dont mean nothing if you’ve never tricked with them. plus dudes tell me am i right when i say this that a wife is like a second mother someone to love you a take care of your well being as long as your being a men about yo shit, but if you have a hoe to freak you the right way all you gotta do go back to your moms to do anything else that’s what she’s there for right?

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  22. Philip on December 1st, 2008 4:07 pm

    We all have a choice, the hoe had/has a choice to be who she wants, and we as men have a choice to choose what we want in life.

    We settle for less at times, both men and women, but we have all made mistakes and bad decisions, everyone deserves a second chance at life and love.

    But all too much women are bound to their mistakes and are not allowed to have changed and learned the error of their ways.

    We should just practice love, and love one another rather than judge.

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  23. E.Plater on June 7th, 2009 4:33 pm

    I need a computer to respond to this bcuz I have alot to say lol. I’ll B back w/ a longer response but here’s the formatted version: 1)NO u cant turn a hoe N2 a housewife ( Believe me I know.) 2) Yes alot of hoes disguise themselves as innocent females. 3) No ur relationship (or whatever ur trynna build) WILL NOT work if u base it off of sex. 2 many ppl do that w/ ppl they actually consider being w/. Get to know them THEN get 2 dat point. P*bleep* will always be there. 4) You don’t have to be a hoe to be experience. I learned most of what I know 4rm just watching videos. N da 1st tym I got down, females thawt I was out there. Gotta remember that sex is like an art. Take ya time w/ it, try different sh*bleep* and you’ll end up teaching YOSELF as u go along…real sh*bleep*.

    P.S: Be back soon w/ more…….DEUCES.

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